Is Soetoro (aka BHO) the Son of Satan?
(Seed of the Serpent) (Cain's Seed)?
A Rainy Night in Hell...
By Pastor James David Manning...
(RE: Obama is the Son of Satan)
WATCH THIS VIDEO FIRST!
Now read the following from the Prophet Brigham Young:
Speach by Gov. Young in Joint Session of the Legeslature.
Feby. 5th 1852 giving his veiws on slavery.
I rise to make a few remarks. The Items before the house I do not understand.
The principle of slavery I understand, at least I have self confidence enough, and confidence enough in God to beleive I do. I beleive still further that a great many others understand it as I do. A great portion of this community have been instructed, and have applied their minds to it, and as far as they have, they agree preciesly in the principles of slavery. My remarks in the first place will be upon the cause of the introduction of slavery. Long ago mama Eve our good old mother Eve pertook of the forbiden fruit and this made a slave of her. Adam hated very much to have her taken out of the garden of Eden, and now our old daddy says I beleive I will eat of the fruit and become a slave too. This was the first introduction of slavery upon this earth; and there has been not a son or daughter of adam from that day to this but what where slaves in the true sense of the word.
That slavery will continue, untill there is a people raised up upon the face of the earth who will contend for righteous principles, who will not only beleive in but operate, with every power and faculty given to them to help to esstablish the kingdom of God, to overcome the devil, and drive him from the earth, then will this curse be removed. This was the starting point of slavery. Again after adam, and Eve had pertook of the curse, we find they had two sons Cain and Able, but which was the oldest I cannot positively say; but this I know, Cain was given more to evil practices than Abel, but whether he was the oldest or not matters not to me. Adam was commanded to sacrifise, and offer up his offerings to God, that placed him into the garden of Eden. Through the faith and obedience of Able to his heavenly father, Cain became jealous of him, and he laid a plan to obtain all his flocks; for through his perfect obedience to father he obtained more blessings than Cain; consequently he took it into his heart to put able able of this mortal existance. after the deed was done, the Lord enquired to able, and made Caine own what he had done with him. Now says the grand father I will not distroy the seed of michal and his wife; and cain I will not kill you, nor suffer any one to kill you, but I will put a mark upon you. What is that mark? you will see it on the countenance of every African you ever did see upon the face of the earth, or ever will see. Now I tell you what I know; when the mark was put upon Cain, Abels children was in all probability young; the Lord told Cain that he should not receive the blessings of the preisthood nor his seed, until the last of the posterity of Able had received the preisthood, until the redemtion of the earth. If there never was a prophet, or apostle of Jesus Christ spoke it before, I tell you, this people that are commonly called negroes are the children of old Cain. I know they are, I know that they cannot bear rule in the preisthood, for the curse on them was to remain upon them, until the resedue of the posterity of Michal and his wife receive the blessings, the seed of Cain would have received had they not been cursed; and hold the keys of the preisthood, until the times of the restitution shall come, and the curse be wiped off from the earth, and from michals seed. Then Cain's seed will be had in rememberance, and the time come when that curse should be wiped off.
Now then in the kingdom of God on the earth, a man who has has the Affrican blood in him cannot hold one jot nor tittle of preisthood; Why? because they are the true eternal principals the Lord Almighty has ordained, and who can help it, men cannot. the angels cannot, and all the powers of earth and hell cannot take it off, but thus saith the Eternal I am, what I am, I take it off at my pleasure, and not one partical of power can that posterity of Cain have, until the time comes the says he will have it taken away. That time will come when they will have the privilege of all we have the privelege of and more. In the kingdom of God on the earth the Affricans cannot hold one partical of power in Government. The the subjects, the rightfull servants of the resedue of the children of Adam, and the resedue of the children through the benign influence of the Spirit of the Lord have the privilege of seeing to the posterity of Cain; inasmuch as it is the Lords will they should receive the spirit of God by Baptisam; and that is the end of their privilege; and there is not power on earth to give them any more power.
You talke of the dark skin, I never saw a white man on earth. I have seen persons whoes hair came pretty nigh being white, but to talk about white skins it is something intirely unknown, though some skins are fairer than others; look at the black eye and the jet black hair, we often see upon men and women who are called white, there is no such things as white folkes. We are the children of Adam, who receive the blessings, and that is enough for us if we are not quite white.
But let me tell you further. Let my seed mingle with the seed of Cain, that brings the curse upon me, and upon my generations, -- we will reap the same rewards with Cain.
In the preisthood I will tell you what it will do. Where the children of God to mingle there seed with the seed of Cain it would not only bring the curse of being deprived of the power of the preisthood upon themselves but they entail it upon their children after them, and they cannot get rid of it. If a man in an ungaurded moment should commit such a transgression, if he would walk up and say cut off my head, and kill man woman and child it would do a great deal towards atoneing for the sin. Would this be to curse them? no it would be a blessing to them. -- it would do them good that they might be saved with their Bren. A man would shuder should they here us take about killing folk, but it is one of the greatest blessings to some to kill them, allthough the true principles of it are not understood.
I will had one thing more. It is not in the power of a man on the face of the earth to take more life than he can give, that is a proper son of Adam. How many times I have heard it said, and how many times has it been reiterated in my ears, and in yours, that to take a life, is to take what you cannot give; This is perfect nonsence; What do I do by taking a mans head off after he is condemned by the Law? I put an end to the existence of the mortal tabernacle; but the life still remains. the body and the spirit is only seperated, this is all that can be done by any mortal man upon the face of the earth.
Can I give that life? I can, I can make as good tabernacles as any other man, if you do not beleive it go and look at my children, therefore that saying is nonsense. We form the tabernacle for the eternal spirit or life that comes from God. We can only put an end to the existence of that tabernacle, and this is the principle of sacrifice.
What was the cause of the antients drawing up hundreds and thousands of Bullocks, and Hefiers, and Lambs, and doves, and almost every other creature arround them, of which they took the best and the fatest, and offered them up as sacrifices unto the Lord. Was it not for the remission of the sins of the people. We read also in the new Testament that a man was sacrifised for the sins of the people. If he had not shed that blood which was given to him in the organisation of his body or Tabernacle, you and I could have had no remission of sins. It is the greatest blessing that could come to some men to shed their blood on the ground, and let it come up before the Lord as an atonement. You nor I cannot take any more life than we can give.
Again to the subject before us; as to The men bearing rule; not one of the children of old Cain, have one partical of right to bear Rule in Government affairs from first to last, they have no buisness there. this privilege was taken from them by there own transgressions, and I cannot help it; and should you or I bear rule we ought to do it with dignity and honour before God.
I am as much oposed to the principle of slavery as any man in the present acceptation or usage of the term, it is abused. I am opposed to abuseing that which God has decreed, to take, a blessing, and make a curse of it. It is a great blessing to the seed of Adam to have the seed of Cain for servants, but those they serve should use them with all the heart and feeling, as they would use their own children, and their compassion should reach over them, and round about them, and treat them as kindly, and with that humane feeling necessary to be shown to mortall beings of the human species. Under these sercumstances there blessings in life are greater in proportion than those who have to provide the bread and dinner for them
We know there is a portion of inhabitants of the earth who dwell in Asia that are negroes, and said to be jews. The blood of Judah has not only mingled almost with all nations, but also with the blood of Cain, and they have mingled there seeds together; These negro Jewes may keep up all the outer ordinenances of the jewish releigeon, they may have there sacrifices, and they may perform all the releigeous seremonies any people on earth could perform, but let me tell you, that the day they consented to mingle their seed with Cannan, the preisthood was taken away from Judah, and that portion of Judahs seed will never get any rule, or blessings of the preisthood until Cain gets it. Let this Church which is called the kingdom of God on the earth; we will sommons the first presidency, the twelve, the high counsel, the Bishoprick, and all the elders of Isreal, suppose we summons them to apear here, and here declare that it is right to mingle our seed, with the black race of Cain, that they shall come in with with us and be pertakers with us of all the blessings God has given to us. On that very day, and hour we should do so, the preisthood is taken from this Church and kingdom and God leaves us to our fate. The moment we consent to mingle with the seed of Cain the Church must go to desstruction, -- we should receive the curse which has been placed upon the seed of Cain, and never more be numbered with the children of Adam who are heirs to the priesthood untill that curse be removed.
Therefore I will not consent for one moment to have an african dictate me or any Bren. with regard to Church or State Government. I may vary in my veiwes from others, and they may think I am foolish in the things I have spoken, and think that they know more than I do, but I know I know more than they do. If the Affricans cannot bear rule in the Church of God, what buisness have they to bear rule in the State and Government affairs of this Territory or any others?
I the Government afairs of States and Territorys and kingdoms by right God should Govern. he should rule over nations, and controle kings. If we suffer the Devil to rule over us we shall not accomplish any good. I want the Lord to rule, and be our Governor and and dictater, and we are the boys to execute. I shall not consent for a moment to give way to a Gentile Spirit of contention, which is the cause of angry -------- Difference to the alinations of every Good feeling. It is for you and I to take a course, to bind our feelings together in an everlasting bond of union inasmuch as we love the Lord, which we ought to do more than selves. Consequently I will not consent for a moment to have the Children of Cain rule me nor my Bren. No, it is not right.
But say some, is there any thing of this kind in the Constitution, the U.S. has given us? If you will allow me the privilege telling right out, it is none of their damned buisness what we do or say here. What we do it is for them to sanction, and then for us to say what we like about it. It is written right out in the constitution, "that every free white male inhabitant above the age of twenty one years" &c. My mind is the same to day as when we where poreing over that constitution; any light upon the subject is the same, my judgement is the same, only a little more so. Prahapes I have said enough upon this subject. I have given you the true principles and doctrine. No man can vote for me or my Bren. in this Territory who has not the privilege of acting in Church affairs. Every man, and woman, and Child in this Territory are Citizens; to say the contrary is all nonsense to me. The indians are Citizens, the Africans are Citizens, and the jews than come from Asia, that are almost entirely of the blood of Cain, It is our duty to take care of them, and administer to them in all the acts of humanity, and kindness, they shall have the right of Citizenship, but shall not have the right to dictate in Church and State matters. The abolishonists of the east, have cirest them them, and. their whol argument are callculated to darken Counsel, as it was here yesterday. As for our bills passing here, we may lay the foundation for what? for men to come here from Africa or else where; by hundreds of thousands. When these men come here from the Islands, are they going to hold offices in Government No. It is for men who understand the knowlege of Government affairs to hold such offices, and on the other make provisions for them to plow, and to reap, and enjoy all that human beings can enjoy, and we protect them in it. Do we know how to amilerate the condition of these people? we do. Supose that five thousands of them come from the pacific Islands, and ten or fifteen thousands from Japan, or from China, not one soul of them would know how to vote for a Government officer, they therefore ought not in the first thing have anything to do in Government afairs.
What the Gentiles are doing we are consenting to do. What we are trying to do to day is to make the Negro equal with us in all our privilege. My voice shall be against all the day long. I shall not consent for one moment I will will call them a counsel. I say I will not consent for one moment for you to lay a plan to bring a curse upon this people. I shall not be while I am here.
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I am completely amazed at the similarities of both Pastor Manning and the Prophet Brigham Young observations.
Just my observation!
Edward C. Noonan
President - 2012
American Independent Party
Saturday, September 10, 2011
Sunday, August 28, 2011
Is the Gay-Serpent-Seed infesting Churches?
from: Edward C. Noonan ednoonan7@gmail.com
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@Christopher Quote:"But almost every member DOES lends aid, encouragement, or sympathy to any of these false philosophies. They support the 2nd, 5th and 10th planks of the Communist Manifesto and are card carrying Socialists because they have Social Security numbers."
You are absolutely right. But I believe we are past the point of no return. 2/3rds of all Americans are belly up to the public trough, Read what the Washington Post states:
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Radical leftist Ezra Klein explains why in this Washington Post article thiat our Marxist/Socialistic America would crumble if the debt limit does not continue to spiral into infinity.
Excerpt:
I’ve been saying the federal government sends out 80 million checks a month, a number I got from the Bipartisan Policy Center. The president says the government sends out 70 million. Alec MacGillis says we’re both wrong:
The figures used by Obama and Geithner were, if anything, too low. They relied on Treasury Department figures from June that include Social Security (56 million checks that month), veterans benefits (4.5 million checks), and spending on non-defense contractors and vendors (1.8 million checks).
But those numbers do not include reimbursements to Medicare providers and vendors (100 million claims in June), and electronic transfers to the 21 million households receiving food stamps.
Nor do they include most spending by the Defense Department, which has a payroll of 6.4 million active and retired employees and, on average, pays nearly 1 million invoices and 660,000 travel expense claims per month.
Obama’s and Geithner’s statements were hyperbolic only in one sense: The vast majority of the payments are now electronic, not checks per se. Of the roughly 80 million payments that the Treasury Department made in June, just 12 million were paper checks, half of them to Social Security recipients who prefer to get their allotment in the mail.Yikes.
John Hawkins of Right Wing News tweeted this today:
Democrats are selling your children into slavery so they’ll have more cash to give to bribe their supporters with.
Most of the time the government writes a check, it is redistributing money from those who work and earn to some other group of people who did not earn that money. In some cases, these expenditures are legitimate – as with defense. But in other cases, it is just borrowing from children’s futures in order to pay off other people who should be taking responsibility for their own lives.
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And then you get some boozo like me who threatens to shut it ALL DOWN! I have vowed to veto all bills and it would require all legislation to be passed by a 2/3rds override of my veto. It will bring this Socialist government to its knees.
Can you image what will happen when 200,000,000 checks suddenly quit flowing?
I don't think you have the stomach for such a crisis. You talk the talk, but you can't walk the walk!
Of course, the congressional buffoons could do it right and override my vetoes and bring our Socialist government slowly under control and we could break free of the FED, Bilderbergs, CFR, Rockerfellers, Rothschild Family, Bank of England, etc, etc. And when I stop the vast flow of American cash into these evil combinations...they will go belly up too.
But I am not going to hold my breath...
Edward C. Noonan
President - 2012
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On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 5:20 PM, Christopher Hansen wrote:
I say I am amazed you even got an answer. Naturally it was a non-answer answer. The Church will not answer such questions directly.
When I went after Harry Reid and the Church for having Harry give firesides in an election year I nailed Reid and got all of the Firesides cancelled but the Church did not respond. The "Lost Sheep" is no longer important enough for the Shepherd to come looking.
I loved this one: "regarding a person’s worthiness from hearsay sources". Hearsay sources? It was the Queers own web site where he said he was still looking for the Butt Sex!
This is why I don't go to Church any more. I never find the Spirit there and the pews are filled to overflowing with illegals and practicing Socialists with Temple Recommends. And it has been made very clear to me that patriot non-voluntary slaves are not welcome.
My very best to you and keep trying if you want to. You will NEVER get an answer that is specific.
If you do let me know. I will be VERY interested.
I laughed right out loud when I read this LIE: "Let me assure you that the doctrines of the Church do not change."
Oh really:
False Political Isms http://lds.org/pa/display/0,17884,4889-1,00.html
We again warn our people in America of the constantly increasing threat against our inspired Constitution and our free institutions set up under it. The same political tenets and philosophies that have brought war and terror in other parts of the world are at work amongst us in America. The proponents thereof are seeking to undermine our own form of government and to set up instead one of the forms of dictatorships now flourishing in other lands. These revolutionists are using a technique that is as old as the human race—a fervid but false solicitude for the unfortunate over whom they thus gain mastery and then enslave them.
They suit their approaches to the particular group they seek to deceive. Among the Latter-day Saints they speak of their philosophy and their plans under it as an ushering in of the United Order. Communism and all other similar isms bear no relationship whatever to the United Order. They are merely the clumsy counterfeits which Satan always devises of the gospel plan. Communism debases the individual and makes him the enslaved tool of the state to whom he must look for sustenance and religion; the United Order exalts the individual, leaves him his property, "according to his family, according to his circumstances and his wants and needs," (D&C 51:3) and provides a system by which he helps care for his less fortunate brethren; the United Order leaves every man free to choose his own religion as his conscience directs. Communism destroys man's God-given free agency; the United Order glorifies it. Latter-day Saints can not be true to their faith and lend aid, encouragement, or sympathy to any of these false philosophies. They will prove snares to their feet.
"Latter-day Saints can not be true to their faith and lend aid, encouragement, or sympathy to any of these false philosophies"?
But almost every member DOES lends aid, encouragement, or sympathy to any of these false philosophies. They support the 2nd, 5th and 10th planks of the Communist Manifesto and are card carrying Socialists because they have Social Security numbers.
So if the Doctrine has not changed then why are those of us that eschew Communism punished but those that embrace false isms are allowed to go to the temple and have church callings? The proof is in the fruit" and the "fruit" is in the practice. And he leadership practices not allowing non-socialists to have temple recommends and church callings.
"He will not allow His Church to be led astray." Really? Then why are the vast majority of the members and leadership practicing Socialists and card carrying members of this Satanic Religion?
Same BS half truths and outright lies that I have seen time and again while the local leadership embraces Queers and Socialists and illegals.
Christopher
On 8/27/11 1:42 PM, Edward C. Noonan wrote:
Christopher
@:"Good luck in your quest. Let us know what happens."
I DID GET a reply from my Stake President! I was sweating it that he would not reply at all, but he did...and I am relieved that I have a Stake President that will respond...regardless of how awkward the subject matter is.
My first impression was that I was rebuked in the smallest way. I guess I should have known that "No other person (even bishops and stake presidents in other units of the Church) is authorized, or will have the spirit of discernment, to make such judgments regarding members outside the boundaries of their ward or stake."
I am sure it this is our churches way of telling people like me to 'shut up and move along, there's nothing to see...' or else, not to rock the boat nor question what is reported and heard from other stakes and wards.
Perhaps I could be more willing to look away and go “wink-wink” with the rest of California, but there is a new stronghold that the Sodomites have on the military now. And it is clear that the Sodomite-filled state and federal legislative Houses are forcing American/California children to be indoctrinated in Sodomite history and Sodomite pride. So, I am unwilling to be silent and "go back to sleep!"
I did however, read the link that President Hall sent to me (1995 Ensign). But I have to be honest....I WANT SOMETHING MORE CURRENT THAN A 16 YEAR OLD CONFERENCE TALK. Bro. Oaks states:“Kindness, compassion, and love are powerful instruments in strengthening us to carry heavy burdens imposed without any fault of our own and to do what we know to be right.”
Kindness? Compassion? Love? Didn’t the Nephites and even the Lamanites try to show kindness, compassion and love toward the Gadiaton Robbers. The Book of Mormon (Helaman 6&7) states that for a while some of the Gadiaton robbers, murderers and deviants did turn righteous for a while, but in the end the Gadiatons completely overcame the members of the church, and the entire government and finally took the lives of everyone that did not join with them.
I believe it is the same today. The Sodomites do not want to “just be friends” but to completely turn entire neighborhoods and communities into dens of evil corruption. Every new program on TV now sponsors sodomite-acting actors and actresses. HawthoRN, Warehouse 13, Law and Order: LA, Undercovers, Fairly Legal, Being Human, My Name is Earl, Shameless, Glee, American Idol, Stargate Universe, etc., and even our news stations are infested… Fox News (Shepard Smith), MSNBC (Rachel Maddow), etc., etc., etc.! All portraying the sodomite lifestyle as upstanding and decent.
Maybe it is just me and I am not interested in seeing morally perverted characters being portrayed in my living room. I will not watch any show that glorifies people that make wrong choices!
I was hoping my Stake President would have been a little less “politically correct” and would have had a tough-love sort of stance… but I guess our church is in the mindset of “can’t we all just get along?” Meanwhile, our nation and communities are going the way to the Nephites and the minds of our citizens of today have been lulled to sleep by the whispers of Lucifer. I, for one, refuse to go back to sleep. What say you, Christopher?
Edward C. Noonan
President - 2012
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From: Peter Hall
Date: Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 9:47 AM
Subject: Re: Openly Gay Mormon Appointed to LDS Church Leadership Position (?)
To: "Edward C. Noonan"
Cc: Bishop Keith
Brother Noonan,
Thank you for your email. It’s always good to hear from members of our stake.
Let me assure you that the doctrines of the Church do not change. Chastity outside of marriage, and complete fidelity in marriage are, and always will be required. Obedience to the Lord’s commandments is the way to happiness in this life and the Eternities, and is what puts one in a position to be counted worthy to serve and perform ordinances in His Church.
Those who are authorized to determine worthiness in the Lord’s kingdom receive priesthood keys, delegated from the president of the Church, to do so. Specifically, bishops, stake presidents, and general authorities have those keys and are set apart to counsel with members and discern worthiness in specific geographic areas. No other person (even bishops and stake presidents in other units of the Church) is authorized, or will have the spirit of discernment, to make such judgments regarding members outside the boundaries of their ward or stake.
Discussions between priesthood leaders and members regarding repentance and progression toward a sinless life are confidential, and are not shared with others. It is not wise to try to guess, or make assumptions regarding a person’s worthiness from hearsay sources, or photographs. Both words and photos can used out of context or retouched with amazing ease. Even our own personal perceptions can be faulty. It’s best to let the Lord work through his ordained ministers, and not set ourselves up as judges.
It is evident from the article you passed along that the man in the news story has traveled a rough path. By his own admission, though he has repented at least to some degree, he has not reached a sinless state (nor has any of us), but he continues to try to master his weaknesses. I am grateful to his priesthood leaders, who obviously care deeply for him and are helping him along the way.
Perhaps the most thorough statement from the Church regarding this subject is found in the October 1995 Ensign.
https://lds.org/ensign/1995/10/same-gender-attraction?lang=eng
Repentance is a great blessing of the atonement, and all of us could use more true repentance in our lives. Whether it’s overcoming pride, or anger, or a non-forgiving spirit, or not faithfully serving in the Lord’s kingdom, or keeping the Word of Wisdom, or not paying tithing, or remaining totally chaste in our thoughts and words and actions, or not keeping our temple covenants, any of these transgressions will keep us from the presence of the Lord. I applaud all who are making progress toward overcoming them.
I know that this is the Lord’s Church. I know he stands at the head of it and guides its affairs worldwide as well as in our local units. He will not allow His Church to be led astray. My prayer is that the Lord will bless each of us as we seek forgiveness, and redouble our efforts to serve Him.
President Hall
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@Christopher Quote:"But almost every member DOES lends aid, encouragement, or sympathy to any of these false philosophies. They support the 2nd, 5th and 10th planks of the Communist Manifesto and are card carrying Socialists because they have Social Security numbers."
You are absolutely right. But I believe we are past the point of no return. 2/3rds of all Americans are belly up to the public trough, Read what the Washington Post states:
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Radical leftist Ezra Klein explains why in this Washington Post article thiat our Marxist/Socialistic America would crumble if the debt limit does not continue to spiral into infinity.
The U.S. sends out 200 million checks per month
http://winteryknight.wordpress.com/2011/07/31/the-u-s-government-sends-out-200-million-checks-per-month/Excerpt:
I’ve been saying the federal government sends out 80 million checks a month, a number I got from the Bipartisan Policy Center. The president says the government sends out 70 million. Alec MacGillis says we’re both wrong:
The figures used by Obama and Geithner were, if anything, too low. They relied on Treasury Department figures from June that include Social Security (56 million checks that month), veterans benefits (4.5 million checks), and spending on non-defense contractors and vendors (1.8 million checks).
But those numbers do not include reimbursements to Medicare providers and vendors (100 million claims in June), and electronic transfers to the 21 million households receiving food stamps.
Nor do they include most spending by the Defense Department, which has a payroll of 6.4 million active and retired employees and, on average, pays nearly 1 million invoices and 660,000 travel expense claims per month.
Obama’s and Geithner’s statements were hyperbolic only in one sense: The vast majority of the payments are now electronic, not checks per se. Of the roughly 80 million payments that the Treasury Department made in June, just 12 million were paper checks, half of them to Social Security recipients who prefer to get their allotment in the mail.Yikes.
John Hawkins of Right Wing News tweeted this today:
Democrats are selling your children into slavery so they’ll have more cash to give to bribe their supporters with.
Most of the time the government writes a check, it is redistributing money from those who work and earn to some other group of people who did not earn that money. In some cases, these expenditures are legitimate – as with defense. But in other cases, it is just borrowing from children’s futures in order to pay off other people who should be taking responsibility for their own lives.
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And then you get some boozo like me who threatens to shut it ALL DOWN! I have vowed to veto all bills and it would require all legislation to be passed by a 2/3rds override of my veto. It will bring this Socialist government to its knees.
Can you image what will happen when 200,000,000 checks suddenly quit flowing?
I don't think you have the stomach for such a crisis. You talk the talk, but you can't walk the walk!
Of course, the congressional buffoons could do it right and override my vetoes and bring our Socialist government slowly under control and we could break free of the FED, Bilderbergs, CFR, Rockerfellers, Rothschild Family, Bank of England, etc, etc. And when I stop the vast flow of American cash into these evil combinations...they will go belly up too.
But I am not going to hold my breath...
Edward C. Noonan
President - 2012
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On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 5:20 PM, Christopher Hansen
I say I am amazed you even got an answer. Naturally it was a non-answer answer. The Church will not answer such questions directly.
When I went after Harry Reid and the Church for having Harry give firesides in an election year I nailed Reid and got all of the Firesides cancelled but the Church did not respond. The "Lost Sheep" is no longer important enough for the Shepherd to come looking.
I loved this one: "regarding a person’s worthiness from hearsay sources". Hearsay sources? It was the Queers own web site where he said he was still looking for the Butt Sex!
This is why I don't go to Church any more. I never find the Spirit there and the pews are filled to overflowing with illegals and practicing Socialists with Temple Recommends. And it has been made very clear to me that patriot non-voluntary slaves are not welcome.
My very best to you and keep trying if you want to. You will NEVER get an answer that is specific.
If you do let me know. I will be VERY interested.
I laughed right out loud when I read this LIE: "Let me assure you that the doctrines of the Church do not change."
Oh really:
False Political Isms http://lds.org/pa/display/0,17884,4889-1,00.html
We again warn our people in America of the constantly increasing threat against our inspired Constitution and our free institutions set up under it. The same political tenets and philosophies that have brought war and terror in other parts of the world are at work amongst us in America. The proponents thereof are seeking to undermine our own form of government and to set up instead one of the forms of dictatorships now flourishing in other lands. These revolutionists are using a technique that is as old as the human race—a fervid but false solicitude for the unfortunate over whom they thus gain mastery and then enslave them.
They suit their approaches to the particular group they seek to deceive. Among the Latter-day Saints they speak of their philosophy and their plans under it as an ushering in of the United Order. Communism and all other similar isms bear no relationship whatever to the United Order. They are merely the clumsy counterfeits which Satan always devises of the gospel plan. Communism debases the individual and makes him the enslaved tool of the state to whom he must look for sustenance and religion; the United Order exalts the individual, leaves him his property, "according to his family, according to his circumstances and his wants and needs," (D&C 51:3) and provides a system by which he helps care for his less fortunate brethren; the United Order leaves every man free to choose his own religion as his conscience directs. Communism destroys man's God-given free agency; the United Order glorifies it. Latter-day Saints can not be true to their faith and lend aid, encouragement, or sympathy to any of these false philosophies. They will prove snares to their feet.
"Latter-day Saints can not be true to their faith and lend aid, encouragement, or sympathy to any of these false philosophies"?
But almost every member DOES lends aid, encouragement, or sympathy to any of these false philosophies. They support the 2nd, 5th and 10th planks of the Communist Manifesto and are card carrying Socialists because they have Social Security numbers.
So if the Doctrine has not changed then why are those of us that eschew Communism punished but those that embrace false isms are allowed to go to the temple and have church callings? The proof is in the fruit" and the "fruit" is in the practice. And he leadership practices not allowing non-socialists to have temple recommends and church callings.
"He will not allow His Church to be led astray." Really? Then why are the vast majority of the members and leadership practicing Socialists and card carrying members of this Satanic Religion?
Same BS half truths and outright lies that I have seen time and again while the local leadership embraces Queers and Socialists and illegals.
Christopher
On 8/27/11 1:42 PM, Edward C. Noonan wrote:
Christopher
@:"Good luck in your quest. Let us know what happens."
I DID GET a reply from my Stake President! I was sweating it that he would not reply at all, but he did...and I am relieved that I have a Stake President that will respond...regardless of how awkward the subject matter is.
My first impression was that I was rebuked in the smallest way. I guess I should have known that "No other person (even bishops and stake presidents in other units of the Church) is authorized, or will have the spirit of discernment, to make such judgments regarding members outside the boundaries of their ward or stake."
I am sure it this is our churches way of telling people like me to 'shut up and move along, there's nothing to see...' or else, not to rock the boat nor question what is reported and heard from other stakes and wards.
Perhaps I could be more willing to look away and go “wink-wink” with the rest of California, but there is a new stronghold that the Sodomites have on the military now. And it is clear that the Sodomite-filled state and federal legislative Houses are forcing American/California children to be indoctrinated in Sodomite history and Sodomite pride. So, I am unwilling to be silent and "go back to sleep!"
I did however, read the link that President Hall sent to me (1995 Ensign). But I have to be honest....I WANT SOMETHING MORE CURRENT THAN A 16 YEAR OLD CONFERENCE TALK. Bro. Oaks states:“Kindness, compassion, and love are powerful instruments in strengthening us to carry heavy burdens imposed without any fault of our own and to do what we know to be right.”
Kindness? Compassion? Love? Didn’t the Nephites and even the Lamanites try to show kindness, compassion and love toward the Gadiaton Robbers. The Book of Mormon (Helaman 6&7) states that for a while some of the Gadiaton robbers, murderers and deviants did turn righteous for a while, but in the end the Gadiatons completely overcame the members of the church, and the entire government and finally took the lives of everyone that did not join with them.
I believe it is the same today. The Sodomites do not want to “just be friends” but to completely turn entire neighborhoods and communities into dens of evil corruption. Every new program on TV now sponsors sodomite-acting actors and actresses. HawthoRN, Warehouse 13, Law and Order: LA, Undercovers, Fairly Legal, Being Human, My Name is Earl, Shameless, Glee, American Idol, Stargate Universe, etc., and even our news stations are infested… Fox News (Shepard Smith), MSNBC (Rachel Maddow), etc., etc., etc.! All portraying the sodomite lifestyle as upstanding and decent.
Maybe it is just me and I am not interested in seeing morally perverted characters being portrayed in my living room. I will not watch any show that glorifies people that make wrong choices!
I was hoping my Stake President would have been a little less “politically correct” and would have had a tough-love sort of stance… but I guess our church is in the mindset of “can’t we all just get along?” Meanwhile, our nation and communities are going the way to the Nephites and the minds of our citizens of today have been lulled to sleep by the whispers of Lucifer. I, for one, refuse to go back to sleep. What say you, Christopher?
Edward C. Noonan
President - 2012
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Peter Hall
Date: Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 9:47 AM
Subject: Re: Openly Gay Mormon Appointed to LDS Church Leadership Position (?)
To: "Edward C. Noonan"
Cc: Bishop Keith
Brother Noonan,
Thank you for your email. It’s always good to hear from members of our stake.
Let me assure you that the doctrines of the Church do not change. Chastity outside of marriage, and complete fidelity in marriage are, and always will be required. Obedience to the Lord’s commandments is the way to happiness in this life and the Eternities, and is what puts one in a position to be counted worthy to serve and perform ordinances in His Church.
Those who are authorized to determine worthiness in the Lord’s kingdom receive priesthood keys, delegated from the president of the Church, to do so. Specifically, bishops, stake presidents, and general authorities have those keys and are set apart to counsel with members and discern worthiness in specific geographic areas. No other person (even bishops and stake presidents in other units of the Church) is authorized, or will have the spirit of discernment, to make such judgments regarding members outside the boundaries of their ward or stake.
Discussions between priesthood leaders and members regarding repentance and progression toward a sinless life are confidential, and are not shared with others. It is not wise to try to guess, or make assumptions regarding a person’s worthiness from hearsay sources, or photographs. Both words and photos can used out of context or retouched with amazing ease. Even our own personal perceptions can be faulty. It’s best to let the Lord work through his ordained ministers, and not set ourselves up as judges.
It is evident from the article you passed along that the man in the news story has traveled a rough path. By his own admission, though he has repented at least to some degree, he has not reached a sinless state (nor has any of us), but he continues to try to master his weaknesses. I am grateful to his priesthood leaders, who obviously care deeply for him and are helping him along the way.
Perhaps the most thorough statement from the Church regarding this subject is found in the October 1995 Ensign.
https://lds.org/ensign/1995/10/same-gender-attraction?lang=eng
Repentance is a great blessing of the atonement, and all of us could use more true repentance in our lives. Whether it’s overcoming pride, or anger, or a non-forgiving spirit, or not faithfully serving in the Lord’s kingdom, or keeping the Word of Wisdom, or not paying tithing, or remaining totally chaste in our thoughts and words and actions, or not keeping our temple covenants, any of these transgressions will keep us from the presence of the Lord. I applaud all who are making progress toward overcoming them.
I know that this is the Lord’s Church. I know he stands at the head of it and guides its affairs worldwide as well as in our local units. He will not allow His Church to be led astray. My prayer is that the Lord will bless each of us as we seek forgiveness, and redouble our efforts to serve Him.
President Hall
Tuesday, August 23, 2011
From: Edward C. Noonan ednoonan7@gmail.com
To: Rich
Date: Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 1:28 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: Natural born
Rich,
Let me tell you like this…
It is my personal belief that there is a God and a Devil. And both are present here on this earth and we are given the ability to choose which one we will follow.
The Devil has been part of the human story since “day one” (and even before day one.) The evil Prince was in heaven and conspired to usurp God’s kingdom. He was punished for that effort and cast down to earth. He also conspired to enslave Adam and Eve and remove them from the Garden… I believe this story and accept it as fact. Though I wonder about some of the facts that we cleave to.
One story claims that Satan caused Eve to eat the FORBIDDEN fruit in the Garden. I am not sure how eating an apple or orange (or whatever) would displease the Father as it did, but that is one story.
Another story is that Satan had sex with Eve and that was “the forbidden fruit.” Satan basically took Eve who was “as a child” and had his way with her. It is said that some sort of a hideous/handsome “serpent creature” was the one that actually “beguiled” Eve but it is clear something horrible happened…so horrible, that Eve was to be cast out of the Garden. If the actual crime was fornification with Satan…then this would explain the reason why such strict punishment of Eve. And of course, then Eve “gave the forbidden fruit” to Adam (and had sex with Adam.)
So this is the doctrine that states that Satan impregnated Eve and he was the father of Cain. And Able was the son of Adam. I believe this theory … my church does not… but personally, I do.
And then comes the “curse of Cain.” You should be aware of this part of the Gospel. It is well accepted throughout most of Christendom.
So whether or not Satan begat Cain, there still exists the “curse of Cain.” In my church we believe that Cain made a covenant with Satan and became the Master Mahon. (Whatever that means!) A curse was given to Cain and all of his descendants forever…until the last days at least.
The curse of Cain was carried forward by Ham’s wife on the Ark. I don’t understand why the Lord allowed this, but it was something that we have to accept. Apparently the entire family of Seth had been overcome and polluted with the “seed of Cain” and had become so evil that monsters and giants roamed the earth. Genesis, Chapter 6 tells the story and of course, the Lost Book of Enoch (found with the Dead Sea Scrolls) goes into great detail concerning the story of the Nephilim and the “Watchers.” I am an avid believer in the Book of Enoch… it was quoted once by Jude in the New Testament so I do not disbelieve. (Enoch was the great-grandfather of Noah.)
The internet states: "The Book of Enoch was extant centuries before the birth of Christ and yet is considered by many to be more Christian in its theology than Jewish. It was considered scripture by many early Christians. The earliest literature of the so-called "Church Fathers" is filled with references to this mysterious book. The early second century "Epistle of Barnabus" makes much use of the Book of Enoch. Second and Third Century "Church Fathers" like Justin Martyr, Irenaeus, Origin and Clement of Alexandria all make use of the Book of Enoch. Tertullian (160-230 C.E) even called the Book of Enoch "Holy Scripture". The Ethiopic Church even added the Book of Enoch to its official canon. It was widely known and read the first three centuries after Christ. "
So you can disregard the Book of Enoch at your own peril.
But it is clear that all but 8 souls during Noah's time were evil and had to be destroyed. Noah, his wife, his three sons and their wives were all that remained and were saved from the flood.
And then we have the three sons of Noah separating after the flood and going in different directions… but it seems to have been a slow movement. For the story of the Nimrod, and the Tower of Babel state that the descendants of Ham eventually enslaved and governed the family of Japhet and Shem (the other two sons of Noah).
If you remember, Abraham, (who was a distant descendant of Shem) was irritated at his father for being a pagan and worshipping pagan gods. Abraham, married his half sister, Sarah. But Abraham’s first concubine was an Egyptian slave girl… who begat Esau. And Esau is the progenitor of the Islams and Muslims. This is one way Abraham helped the Serpent’s seed or Seed of Cain carry on in the early history of the Hebrew religion.
It is my contention that the Seed of Cain, or the Seed of the Serpent has infiltrated almost every human on earth. I will stipulate that Christ’s genealogy was free of the Seed of the Serpent, but I do not believe he had any children and therefore the “good seed” ended with him.
And history states that the Moors (Muslims) conquered most of the area that is now France, and the Irish, English and Germanic people are all infested with the Serpent seed. If you have a single freckle, you can see the brown DNA showing through. Dark skin = the Serpent seed. We all have it, we all have Satan’s seed in us.
This is why I believe it is so important to accept Christ as our Savior. If we do not, then we belong to Satan because we have his DNA within us.
Now getting back to your originally question. It is my contention that the entire world is dominated by the Serpent Seed. The Republican’s clearly do not seem to be righteous enough to war against the seed. They have become part of the evil that prevails. Most Republicans can’t keep their pants on and drop their underwear at a slightest opportunity. Most of them are NOT men of God and most of them, like Arnold Schwarzenegger was evil coming into office and was evil going out of office. Yet most Republicans will continue to vote in such evil men. I’m not even going to address the evilness of the Marxist, Commie Democrat Party. You can draw your own conclusions. Let’s just say, they are the epitome of the Serpent Seed.
And too, look at a simple matter of what is a Natural Born Citizen. Not a single Republican in office will champion this cause. NOT A SINGLE REPUBLICAN. If they will not champion the Constitution, they will not champion the Gospel, nor Christ either. This is what I say about modern day REPUBLICANS:
All concerns of men go wrong when they wish to cure evil with evil. - SOPHOCLES, The Sons of Aleus [fragment]
The Republicans were of the Serpent Seed when they allowed the U.S. Constitution to die in 1881 under Chester Arthur… and they are wrong today when they allowed an illegal alien to squat in the White House and bring a Serpent Seed/Seed of Cain into the White House. As a Muslim Mr. Soetoro is an Anti-Christ and as a Socialist/Marxist he is as close to being a member of the Serpent Seed movement as anyone I can think of.
And how about this illegal invasion of hordes of people that have stolen into our midst? The La Raz group has nothing but evil in their hearts towards us. Their goal is to take over our land and retain it for themselves. La Raz and MEChA want to infest our land with the Marxist ideals that stink up their land. And where are the Republicans on this matter? Even Michelle Bachmann, who is the most conservative of the bunch has been mostly silent…on you can find little that she has said in defense of stronger and more secure borders. The rest of the Republican candidates are a joke when it comes to secure borders…and you have to look long and hard for actions that point to their belief in secure borders. The only time you can find a pro-secure border statement is at election time, when they must pretend to be guarding our borders.
So you ask…how is my endeavor of getting myself elected (who has taken a vow to NOT BE a member of the Serpent Seed movement)? I say this… Satan hasn’t won yet. He has ME as his #1 adversary. I may have been part of the evil SERPENT SEED once, but I am no longer his. I have taken on Christ as my Master and my Lord. So as long as I live, I fight Satan with my dying breath.
Alice has come on board as well…so we have two in the battle. I would like you to cast off your serpent seed blood and take on the righteous salvation of Christ and come and join the battle. Else you can stay with the unrighteous Republicans and their cohorts. “By their fruits ye shall know them…” If you come aboard, there will be three…
Alice, told me today that she thinks you are in with us? What say you? Are you pro-Satan seed or anti-Satan Seed? Can you throw off the practice of worshipping the Republican/Democrat god of evil, or do you side with the Gospel ideals?
It is my belief that our nation is lead by a member of the Seed of Cain. Soetoro is in no way showing himself to be a follower of Christ, but instead a follower of Lucifer. He has proclaimed no baptism in any Christian church, nor does he act and speak as a follower of the New Testament. Even if my theory of him being of the Ancient Seed of Cain is false, Soetoro is clearly a follower of the evil one. He lies, he deceives, uses illegal drugs and he holds in high esteem the unholy behavior of the Gay and Lesbian lifestyle. Additionally, Soetoro is a full-fledged adherent of the LA RAZA mindset which began 1500 years ago with the Lamanites of the Americas (see the Book of Mormon). Soetoro is clearly a “disciple” of the Seed of Satan even if he does not have the birthright by birth. Can you prove otherwise?
Edward C. Noonan
2012 President (follower of the Seed of Christ)
THE SERPENT SEED/SEED OF CAIN: This cool graphic was on the internet today. It tells it all!
To: Rich
Date: Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 1:28 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: Natural born
Rich,
Let me tell you like this…
It is my personal belief that there is a God and a Devil. And both are present here on this earth and we are given the ability to choose which one we will follow.
The Devil has been part of the human story since “day one” (and even before day one.) The evil Prince was in heaven and conspired to usurp God’s kingdom. He was punished for that effort and cast down to earth. He also conspired to enslave Adam and Eve and remove them from the Garden… I believe this story and accept it as fact. Though I wonder about some of the facts that we cleave to.
One story claims that Satan caused Eve to eat the FORBIDDEN fruit in the Garden. I am not sure how eating an apple or orange (or whatever) would displease the Father as it did, but that is one story.
Another story is that Satan had sex with Eve and that was “the forbidden fruit.” Satan basically took Eve who was “as a child” and had his way with her. It is said that some sort of a hideous/handsome “serpent creature” was the one that actually “beguiled” Eve but it is clear something horrible happened…so horrible, that Eve was to be cast out of the Garden. If the actual crime was fornification with Satan…then this would explain the reason why such strict punishment of Eve. And of course, then Eve “gave the forbidden fruit” to Adam (and had sex with Adam.)
So this is the doctrine that states that Satan impregnated Eve and he was the father of Cain. And Able was the son of Adam. I believe this theory … my church does not… but personally, I do.
And then comes the “curse of Cain.” You should be aware of this part of the Gospel. It is well accepted throughout most of Christendom.
So whether or not Satan begat Cain, there still exists the “curse of Cain.” In my church we believe that Cain made a covenant with Satan and became the Master Mahon. (Whatever that means!) A curse was given to Cain and all of his descendants forever…until the last days at least.
The curse of Cain was carried forward by Ham’s wife on the Ark. I don’t understand why the Lord allowed this, but it was something that we have to accept. Apparently the entire family of Seth had been overcome and polluted with the “seed of Cain” and had become so evil that monsters and giants roamed the earth. Genesis, Chapter 6 tells the story and of course, the Lost Book of Enoch (found with the Dead Sea Scrolls) goes into great detail concerning the story of the Nephilim and the “Watchers.” I am an avid believer in the Book of Enoch… it was quoted once by Jude in the New Testament so I do not disbelieve. (Enoch was the great-grandfather of Noah.)
The internet states: "The Book of Enoch was extant centuries before the birth of Christ and yet is considered by many to be more Christian in its theology than Jewish. It was considered scripture by many early Christians. The earliest literature of the so-called "Church Fathers" is filled with references to this mysterious book. The early second century "Epistle of Barnabus" makes much use of the Book of Enoch. Second and Third Century "Church Fathers" like Justin Martyr, Irenaeus, Origin and Clement of Alexandria all make use of the Book of Enoch. Tertullian (160-230 C.E) even called the Book of Enoch "Holy Scripture". The Ethiopic Church even added the Book of Enoch to its official canon. It was widely known and read the first three centuries after Christ. "
So you can disregard the Book of Enoch at your own peril.
But it is clear that all but 8 souls during Noah's time were evil and had to be destroyed. Noah, his wife, his three sons and their wives were all that remained and were saved from the flood.
And then we have the three sons of Noah separating after the flood and going in different directions… but it seems to have been a slow movement. For the story of the Nimrod, and the Tower of Babel state that the descendants of Ham eventually enslaved and governed the family of Japhet and Shem (the other two sons of Noah).
If you remember, Abraham, (who was a distant descendant of Shem) was irritated at his father for being a pagan and worshipping pagan gods. Abraham, married his half sister, Sarah. But Abraham’s first concubine was an Egyptian slave girl… who begat Esau. And Esau is the progenitor of the Islams and Muslims. This is one way Abraham helped the Serpent’s seed or Seed of Cain carry on in the early history of the Hebrew religion.
It is my contention that the Seed of Cain, or the Seed of the Serpent has infiltrated almost every human on earth. I will stipulate that Christ’s genealogy was free of the Seed of the Serpent, but I do not believe he had any children and therefore the “good seed” ended with him.
And history states that the Moors (Muslims) conquered most of the area that is now France, and the Irish, English and Germanic people are all infested with the Serpent seed. If you have a single freckle, you can see the brown DNA showing through. Dark skin = the Serpent seed. We all have it, we all have Satan’s seed in us.
This is why I believe it is so important to accept Christ as our Savior. If we do not, then we belong to Satan because we have his DNA within us.
Now getting back to your originally question. It is my contention that the entire world is dominated by the Serpent Seed. The Republican’s clearly do not seem to be righteous enough to war against the seed. They have become part of the evil that prevails. Most Republicans can’t keep their pants on and drop their underwear at a slightest opportunity. Most of them are NOT men of God and most of them, like Arnold Schwarzenegger was evil coming into office and was evil going out of office. Yet most Republicans will continue to vote in such evil men. I’m not even going to address the evilness of the Marxist, Commie Democrat Party. You can draw your own conclusions. Let’s just say, they are the epitome of the Serpent Seed.
And too, look at a simple matter of what is a Natural Born Citizen. Not a single Republican in office will champion this cause. NOT A SINGLE REPUBLICAN. If they will not champion the Constitution, they will not champion the Gospel, nor Christ either. This is what I say about modern day REPUBLICANS:
All concerns of men go wrong when they wish to cure evil with evil. - SOPHOCLES, The Sons of Aleus [fragment]
The Republicans were of the Serpent Seed when they allowed the U.S. Constitution to die in 1881 under Chester Arthur… and they are wrong today when they allowed an illegal alien to squat in the White House and bring a Serpent Seed/Seed of Cain into the White House. As a Muslim Mr. Soetoro is an Anti-Christ and as a Socialist/Marxist he is as close to being a member of the Serpent Seed movement as anyone I can think of.
And how about this illegal invasion of hordes of people that have stolen into our midst? The La Raz group has nothing but evil in their hearts towards us. Their goal is to take over our land and retain it for themselves. La Raz and MEChA want to infest our land with the Marxist ideals that stink up their land. And where are the Republicans on this matter? Even Michelle Bachmann, who is the most conservative of the bunch has been mostly silent…on you can find little that she has said in defense of stronger and more secure borders. The rest of the Republican candidates are a joke when it comes to secure borders…and you have to look long and hard for actions that point to their belief in secure borders. The only time you can find a pro-secure border statement is at election time, when they must pretend to be guarding our borders.
So you ask…how is my endeavor of getting myself elected (who has taken a vow to NOT BE a member of the Serpent Seed movement)? I say this… Satan hasn’t won yet. He has ME as his #1 adversary. I may have been part of the evil SERPENT SEED once, but I am no longer his. I have taken on Christ as my Master and my Lord. So as long as I live, I fight Satan with my dying breath.
Alice has come on board as well…so we have two in the battle. I would like you to cast off your serpent seed blood and take on the righteous salvation of Christ and come and join the battle. Else you can stay with the unrighteous Republicans and their cohorts. “By their fruits ye shall know them…” If you come aboard, there will be three…
Alice, told me today that she thinks you are in with us? What say you? Are you pro-Satan seed or anti-Satan Seed? Can you throw off the practice of worshipping the Republican/Democrat god of evil, or do you side with the Gospel ideals?
It is my belief that our nation is lead by a member of the Seed of Cain. Soetoro is in no way showing himself to be a follower of Christ, but instead a follower of Lucifer. He has proclaimed no baptism in any Christian church, nor does he act and speak as a follower of the New Testament. Even if my theory of him being of the Ancient Seed of Cain is false, Soetoro is clearly a follower of the evil one. He lies, he deceives, uses illegal drugs and he holds in high esteem the unholy behavior of the Gay and Lesbian lifestyle. Additionally, Soetoro is a full-fledged adherent of the LA RAZA mindset which began 1500 years ago with the Lamanites of the Americas (see the Book of Mormon). Soetoro is clearly a “disciple” of the Seed of Satan even if he does not have the birthright by birth. Can you prove otherwise?
Edward C. Noonan
2012 President (follower of the Seed of Christ)
Saturday, August 20, 2011
The Theory
For a summary of the Serpent Seed Theory you can find many on the Internet. One such summary can be found at: http://mystery-babylon.org/cain.html
Here they summarize the story: "Cain kills Abel; his own brother." But they also quote from the lost scripture, "Untold Garden of Eden," and they say "that the serpent and Eve may have gone a little farther than just eating a piece of fruit. Their offspring, according to many ancient sources, was Cain."
Then they say, "The common word for fathering a child, in the Bible, is begat. Nowhere in the Bible does it say that Adam begat Cain!"
It is clear that Adam "was cloned" from the dust and Eve was "cloned" from his rib. There is no reason why Cain could not have been "cloned" from Eve, but NOT from Adam (by Lucifer.)
Though I am not sure I completely agree with this theory...
Brigham Young stated in the speech that I quoted in my former post, stated: "Now says the grand father I will not distroy the seed of michal and his wife; and cain I will not kill you, nor suffer any one to kill you, but I will put a mark upon you. "
Here the Prophet Young stated that our Grandfather God (the father of Adam) himself stated that Cain is the Seed of Michael (aka Adam, aka Ancient of Days) and NOT of Satan. The Book of Moses chapter 5 discusses the ritual sacrifice of Cain when he killed Abel. And Chapter 5 states that God accepted Abel's sacrifice of a sheep, but not Cain's sacrifice of crops. The angry Cain made a secret pact with Satan, who asked Cain to:
"...swear unto me by thy throat, and if thou tell it thou shalt die; and swear thy bretheren by their heads, and by the living God, that they tell it not; for if they tell it, they shall surely die; and this that thy father may not know it; and this day I will deliver thy brother Abel into thine hands."
After entering this secret pact with Satan, Cain said, "Truly I am Mahan, the master of this great secret, that I may murder to get gain." Then, the passage comments, "Wherefore Cain was called Master Mahan; and he gloried in his wickedness." This arrangement was referred to as a secret combination.
Later, the passage states that Cain's descendant Lamech had "slain a man to wounding, and a young man to his hurt", and Lamech "entered into a covenant with Satan, after the manner of Cain, wherein he became Master Mahan, master of the great secret which was administered unto Cain by Satan." When a man named Irad, one of the sons of Enoch who knew about Lamech's secret pact, revealed that secret to others, the passage states that Lamech killed him to enforce the blood oath of secrecy.
Murder is indeed a horrible act. But it does not seem to be the the type of act that would cause immediate spiritual death to anyone that had sex with the seed of Cain. For instance, Brigham Young taught a much greater extreme. In a sermon given on March 8, 1863, Young stated: "Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God, is death on the spot. This will always be so" (Journal of Discourses, 10:110).
Generation after generation of curses would be too much punishment if your ancestor merely was Cain who killed his brother. And even if Cain made a secret covenant with Satan, that would be upon HIS head, and should not carry down to his descendants. Our 2nd Article of Faith states: "We believe that men will be punished for their own sins, and not for Adam's transgression."
Likewise, we would be under the same protection against the "transgressions" of Cain... so there has to be something more to it. IT HAS TO BE THAT THE OLD LOST SCRIPTURES WERE RIGHT... Satan raped Eve and Cain is HIS SEED. This is the only theory that makes any sense.
And it would help us understand WHY WE NEED THE ATONEMENT of Christ so that we can be saved (see 3rd Article of Faith). What do we need to be saved from? The answer is clear... we need to be saved from the curse that we live under. We live under the cloud of being the spawn of Lucifer. Our blood has the DNA of Satan and we need to be washed clean and made whole again... Else we perish and return to the darkness of our father Lucifer.
Here they summarize the story: "Cain kills Abel; his own brother." But they also quote from the lost scripture, "Untold Garden of Eden," and they say "that the serpent and Eve may have gone a little farther than just eating a piece of fruit. Their offspring, according to many ancient sources, was Cain."
Then they say, "The common word for fathering a child, in the Bible, is begat. Nowhere in the Bible does it say that Adam begat Cain!"
It is clear that Adam "was cloned" from the dust and Eve was "cloned" from his rib. There is no reason why Cain could not have been "cloned" from Eve, but NOT from Adam (by Lucifer.)
Though I am not sure I completely agree with this theory...
Brigham Young stated in the speech that I quoted in my former post, stated: "Now says the grand father I will not distroy the seed of michal and his wife; and cain I will not kill you, nor suffer any one to kill you, but I will put a mark upon you. "
Here the Prophet Young stated that our Grandfather God (the father of Adam) himself stated that Cain is the Seed of Michael (aka Adam, aka Ancient of Days) and NOT of Satan. The Book of Moses chapter 5 discusses the ritual sacrifice of Cain when he killed Abel. And Chapter 5 states that God accepted Abel's sacrifice of a sheep, but not Cain's sacrifice of crops. The angry Cain made a secret pact with Satan, who asked Cain to:
"...swear unto me by thy throat, and if thou tell it thou shalt die; and swear thy bretheren by their heads, and by the living God, that they tell it not; for if they tell it, they shall surely die; and this that thy father may not know it; and this day I will deliver thy brother Abel into thine hands."
After entering this secret pact with Satan, Cain said, "Truly I am Mahan, the master of this great secret, that I may murder to get gain." Then, the passage comments, "Wherefore Cain was called Master Mahan; and he gloried in his wickedness." This arrangement was referred to as a secret combination.
Later, the passage states that Cain's descendant Lamech had "slain a man to wounding, and a young man to his hurt", and Lamech "entered into a covenant with Satan, after the manner of Cain, wherein he became Master Mahan, master of the great secret which was administered unto Cain by Satan." When a man named Irad, one of the sons of Enoch who knew about Lamech's secret pact, revealed that secret to others, the passage states that Lamech killed him to enforce the blood oath of secrecy.
Murder is indeed a horrible act. But it does not seem to be the the type of act that would cause immediate spiritual death to anyone that had sex with the seed of Cain. For instance, Brigham Young taught a much greater extreme. In a sermon given on March 8, 1863, Young stated: "Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God, is death on the spot. This will always be so" (Journal of Discourses, 10:110).
Generation after generation of curses would be too much punishment if your ancestor merely was Cain who killed his brother. And even if Cain made a secret covenant with Satan, that would be upon HIS head, and should not carry down to his descendants. Our 2nd Article of Faith states: "We believe that men will be punished for their own sins, and not for Adam's transgression."
Likewise, we would be under the same protection against the "transgressions" of Cain... so there has to be something more to it. IT HAS TO BE THAT THE OLD LOST SCRIPTURES WERE RIGHT... Satan raped Eve and Cain is HIS SEED. This is the only theory that makes any sense.
And it would help us understand WHY WE NEED THE ATONEMENT of Christ so that we can be saved (see 3rd Article of Faith). What do we need to be saved from? The answer is clear... we need to be saved from the curse that we live under. We live under the cloud of being the spawn of Lucifer. Our blood has the DNA of Satan and we need to be washed clean and made whole again... Else we perish and return to the darkness of our father Lucifer.
Justifying Young vs. Spenser
So how do I justify Brigham Young's teaching with Spence W. Kimball's totally new and different concepts? This is what Brigham Young said:
"That slavery will continue, untill there is a people raised up upon the face of the earth who will contend for righteous principles, who will not only beleive in but operate, with every power and faculty given to them to help to esstablish the kingdom of God, to overcome the devil, and drive him from the earth, then will this curse be removed. This was the starting point of slavery. Again after adam, and Eve had pertook of the curse, we find they had two sons Cain and Able, but which was the oldest I cannot positively say; but this I know, Cain was given more to evil practices than Abel, but whether he was the oldest or not matters not to me. Adam was commanded to sacrifise, and offer up his offerings to God, that placed him into the garden of Eden. Through the faith and obedience of Able to his heavenly father, Cain became jealous of him, and he laid a plan to obtain all his flocks; for through his perfect obedience to father he obtained more blessings than Cain; consequently he took it into his heart to put able able of this mortal existance. after the deed was done, the Lord enquired to able, and made Caine own what he had done with him. Now says the grand father I will not distroy the seed of michal and his wife; and cain I will not kill you, nor suffer any one to kill you, but I will put a mark upon you. What is that mark? you will see it on the countenance of every African you ever did see upon the face of the earth, or ever will see. Now I tell you what I know; when the mark was put upon Cain, Abels children was in all probability young; the Lord told Cain that he should not receive the blessings of the preisthood nor his seed, until the last of the posterity of Able had received the preisthood, until the redemtion of the earth. If there never was a prophet, or apostle of Jesus Christ spoke it before, I tell you, this people that are commonly called negroes are the children of old Cain. I know they are, I know that they cannot bear rule in the preisthood, for the curse on them was to remain upon them, until the resedue of the posterity of Michal and his wife receive the blessings, the seed of Cain would have received had they not been cursed; and hold the keys of the preisthood, until the times of the restitution shall come, and the curse be wiped off from the earth, and from michals seed. Then Cain's seed will be had in rememberance, and the time come when that curse should be wiped off." (See: http://www.utlm.org/onlineresources/sermons_talks_interviews/brigham1852feb5_priesthoodandblacks.htm)"
There can be no doubt that this is what B. Y. taught! So how can we justify the two opposing ideas?
The way I justify it is this... Once any person is baptized into the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, they are confirmed a member of the Church. You are then allowed to get a patriarchal blessing. The purpose of this blessing is to determine an 'adopted' lineage you will be assigned too. In many families two siblings might be adopted into a different lines... The Tribe of Ephraim is a common adopted line... and it is mine.
So once you are adopted into a "line of Adam" you are no longer in the blood-line of Satan. Through Jesus Christ this adoption is guaranteed if you forsake the blood-line of Satan and follow instead after Christ... We are all of the blood line of Satan at birth, and we must cast off our birth right with Satan, and follow the teachings and commandments of Christ.
It can't be more simple than that!
"That slavery will continue, untill there is a people raised up upon the face of the earth who will contend for righteous principles, who will not only beleive in but operate, with every power and faculty given to them to help to esstablish the kingdom of God, to overcome the devil, and drive him from the earth, then will this curse be removed. This was the starting point of slavery. Again after adam, and Eve had pertook of the curse, we find they had two sons Cain and Able, but which was the oldest I cannot positively say; but this I know, Cain was given more to evil practices than Abel, but whether he was the oldest or not matters not to me. Adam was commanded to sacrifise, and offer up his offerings to God, that placed him into the garden of Eden. Through the faith and obedience of Able to his heavenly father, Cain became jealous of him, and he laid a plan to obtain all his flocks; for through his perfect obedience to father he obtained more blessings than Cain; consequently he took it into his heart to put able able of this mortal existance. after the deed was done, the Lord enquired to able, and made Caine own what he had done with him. Now says the grand father I will not distroy the seed of michal and his wife; and cain I will not kill you, nor suffer any one to kill you, but I will put a mark upon you. What is that mark? you will see it on the countenance of every African you ever did see upon the face of the earth, or ever will see. Now I tell you what I know; when the mark was put upon Cain, Abels children was in all probability young; the Lord told Cain that he should not receive the blessings of the preisthood nor his seed, until the last of the posterity of Able had received the preisthood, until the redemtion of the earth. If there never was a prophet, or apostle of Jesus Christ spoke it before, I tell you, this people that are commonly called negroes are the children of old Cain. I know they are, I know that they cannot bear rule in the preisthood, for the curse on them was to remain upon them, until the resedue of the posterity of Michal and his wife receive the blessings, the seed of Cain would have received had they not been cursed; and hold the keys of the preisthood, until the times of the restitution shall come, and the curse be wiped off from the earth, and from michals seed. Then Cain's seed will be had in rememberance, and the time come when that curse should be wiped off." (See: http://www.utlm.org/onlineresources/sermons_talks_interviews/brigham1852feb5_priesthoodandblacks.htm)"
There can be no doubt that this is what B. Y. taught! So how can we justify the two opposing ideas?
The way I justify it is this... Once any person is baptized into the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, they are confirmed a member of the Church. You are then allowed to get a patriarchal blessing. The purpose of this blessing is to determine an 'adopted' lineage you will be assigned too. In many families two siblings might be adopted into a different lines... The Tribe of Ephraim is a common adopted line... and it is mine.
So once you are adopted into a "line of Adam" you are no longer in the blood-line of Satan. Through Jesus Christ this adoption is guaranteed if you forsake the blood-line of Satan and follow instead after Christ... We are all of the blood line of Satan at birth, and we must cast off our birth right with Satan, and follow the teachings and commandments of Christ.
It can't be more simple than that!
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